In Part 1, Volker tells the story of his discovery of cacao that had been lost to Westerners – but was still known by the people in the jungle of Bolivia. In Part 2, we talk about the struggle of convincing the chocolate industry to try such unusual and small cacao beans. Volker labored for years to prove to people that the cacao from his wild forest trees – that violated industry standards for size – could make exceptional chocolate. Now his cacao is a hot commodity! Listen in to his very human story of struggle, and success, and striving for yet greater excellence.